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On this episode we've got updates from Spirit Fest in Anderson, Indiana and we are diving deep into the book, The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes.

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Let's start with Spirit Fest in Anderson, Indiana.

This event was a couple of weeks ago now, but I felt like reviewing our trip there. My wife and I were expecting booths representing different spiritual practices or maybe religions. Something centered around actual spiritual practice and exploration. Sadly, a majority of what we saw were booths selling handmade shit like jewelry or scarves or incense burners. One booth was selling hand made wood things, which of course was over priced. But my favorite thing they were selling was a slab of some log they lightly sanded, stained, and clear coated. It had to be at least an inch thick. They had it labeled as a "mouse pad" and were charging $25.00. Who the hell uses mouse pads any more? This isn't the 90's with rubber ball mice. And who would want their hand perched an inch in the air scraping against the rough hewn edges of a slab of log? Anyway, this was most of what we saw; over priced, spiritually oriented nick nacks. However, one booth my wife stopped at was Avalon Trading where we met Digby. He was up from Florida selling his products. When my wife was talking with him I was just a little ways down the sidewalk and she came back with a kick ass rock that Digby helped her find. Then I introduced myself to him and mentioned the podcast and he hooked me up with a little stained glass dragonfly. That was really nice of him and he was nice to talk to. So, while it was another booth selling goods, they looked like good products so I'll link to his business in the show notes. Digby, if you're listening, it was nice meeting you, keep up the good work.

Aside from the booths selling trinkets, there were a few booths centered around healing practices or psychics. I will say however, the Native American Experience seemed like bullshit. As I walked past there were a handful of people sitting on hay bales while a hillbilly lady dressed in native american attire explained that she was a feeler so she can feel things. And then it ended. So yeah.

What was most interesting about the festival wasn't the festival itself, but the place where it was hosted. This park in Anderson seems to be dedicated to spiritualism. As we walked around the park we came across permanent structures representing spiritual leaders, a labyrinth, and even a bookstore that was full of books for just about every alternative religion you could think of. From chakra healing, to meditation, to cults and wiccan rituals, it was all there. The park was essentially surrounded by houses and some of them had advertisements for psychics or things like that. So this park is literally dedicated to spiritualism which I think is really impressive for basically central Indiana. I wouldn't recommend spirit fest, but I would recommend checking out the park itself. I got a few pictures while I was there so I'll post those shortly.

One of the many handouts I was given was from the Fetzer Institute, which I will link to in the show notes. On the handout it had a link to get a free book from the foundation, so I of course did just that. I’ll just give you a brief overview of the foundation since I think it’s pretty interesting and then if I get a chance to dive into the book I might do an episode on it specifically. If you look at the Fetzer institutes website you'll find a learn more button right on the first page. Here is a snippet of what seems to be their mission statement: "We, the people, have the power to shape our democracy. Working together, we can transcend the labels that polarize us and realize what unites us. We can cultivate sacred connections with our neighbors and build a shared vision for our communities and our country.

From educators and philanthropists to religious and spiritual visionaries, we are partnering with leaders all over our country who are working toward this more loving world. Together, we are listening to and learning from students who are finding common values; citizens developing skills to communicate beyond political divides; and communities striving to heal after violent events."

This caught my attention because while it sounds like they aim to operate within the framework of politics, it also sounds like they are trying to re-invent or reshape the WAY we operate in that framework. Further down the page there were links to projects they are currently involved in. As far as the where they put their time and money, it's pretty interesting. I read somewhere on their site that the institute is not open to unsolicited submittals, rather they pick projects and initiatives on their own. Which is interesting because I'd image they would get bombarded with requests for money or backing, so I can see why they have to be insulated from that. However, the flip side to that is they will only be supporting causes that align with their outlook so I feel like that outlook should be examined carefully.

One project that caught my attention was the Practicing Democracy Project. I'll link to this specifically in the show notes. The project is a joint effort between the Fetzer Institute and the Center for Spirituality and Practice. In the description of the project it says "The Project assumes that American democracy can flourish only when citizens are united, at a deep level that transcends ideology, race, and class, to a shared spiritual and moral vision of what America should be." I like this idea because in my own view, a spiritual transformation on an individual, personal level is what I think may be the only hope for us going forward. I don't mean that we all need to become part of the same religion; I think religion and politics have run their course and are not sustainable methods moving forward. However, it sounds like they are saying something to the effect of we all need to be on team "us" or something like that. I would argue that if we all truly were on that team, the societal need for religion and politics would naturally dissolve but, that's tangential to what they are putting forward here.

Here's what I mean about examining the outlook they are promoting carefully. The page for the project states "On the Project’s website, you’ll find quotes on the language of democracy, recommended books and book excerpts, ways to honor democracy mentors and teachers, practices to observe flashpoints in American history, art reflections, music playlists..." and it goes on to list some other resources. What catches my attention is where it says "ways to honor democracy". Granted, I would need to investigate the project more thoroughly to give it a fair assessment, but that phrase just sounds very odd even though they are promoting equality among the human race. I'm assuming they are devoted to some kind of pure democracy ideal, but I'm not sure. To be fair, looking through the different resources they provide to align ourselves with their outlook are pretty good. For example, on the website for the Center for Spirituality and Practice, they have 3 ted talks that discuss what to do with anger and how to use it for good. I can get behind that. What I don't yet understand is how they see the institution of pure democracy working out. For example, in pure democracy, majority rules. So for that to be a positive feature of the arrangement, we have to know that the majority is operating with a moral compass that is aimed at the benefit for all involved. Otherwise, pure democracy does not directly correlate with ultimate freedom or even the flourishing of humans. Now, assuming that majority are all on the same page, let's say morally, we have to ask who's rules are they playing by? And are those rules so fundamental that they can be applied to every culture, in every place, at every time? As near as I can tell, humans have been debating, fighting, killing, and dying over what those rules should be. I think it may be rather presumptuous of this foundation to assume they have landed a one size fits all "human religion" for us all to follow. Like I said, I'll dive into this further and read the book and then possibly do a full episode on them in the future. Who knows, maybe I could even land an interview with a representative. That would be fantastic.

Let's get into The Origin of Consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind by Julian Jaynes.  I want to start by giving you kind of an overview of where this book goes. Essentially because it is incredibly long. I have been reading it for months now and I am almost half way done. I might be a slow reader but it is two books and each chapter is super dense. What we will get into today is Julian explaining kind of the history of the study of consciousness. We'll also kind of touch on what he argues consciousness is not, but I think I'll get more into that on another episode. From there Julian goes way back into the past and explains the evidence he feels supports one main idea in the book. That idea is that early humans were not conscious in the same way we are. I know it sounds crazy but stick with me on this multi-parter because he presents some really interesting ideas later on. Let's crack the shell of this argument here and start with how we've considered consciousness in the past.

Julian was an American psychologist, born in 1920 and passed away in 1997. This book is his most famous work in which he analyzes the nature of consciousness and provides his definition for what it is. I had to look up what bicameral meant and it turns out Julian actually coined the term in this very book! Bicameral means , according to Wikipedia, (the condition of being divided into "two-chambers") is a hypothesis in psychology that argues that the human mind once operated in a state in which cognitive functions were divided between one part of the brain which appears to be "speaking", and a second part which listens and obeys. The title of the book kind of sums up where the author is aiming to go: he is asserting a theory about what the early form of human mind was like, and that the early makeup of the mind has changed with what he considers the advent of consciousness.

This will be a multi-parter because firstly, this is an enormous book. Second, the material is dense. Lastly, because I barely made it through chapter 1 and already had over 100 notes. I like the ideas in this book so much because they directly relate to my own arguments in my book. Like I said if you like this show I think you will like my book. Consider signing up on patreon to help me get the book completed! I will also be incorporating my thoughts on this very book into my assertions about consciousness. Anyway in this episode we are going to look at what is essentially chapter 1. To give you an overview of where we are going, this episode will be a look at the history of the study of consciousness and how we got to here.

One of the fundamental questions that this book aims to address is what is the consciousness that is me, you, all of us. And, where did it come from and why? Which is why the book is so effing long. Julian points out in the beginning this interesting trend of our metaphors for what consciousness is being closely tied to the most recent boom in science. For example, Augustine living among the amazing landscape of Carthage describes consciousness as vast, spacious physical landscapes such as hills, valleys, and caves. Later in the middle of the 19th century, apparently chemistry became the popular science, and thus, the way scientists thought about and studied the problem of consciousness was the way a chemist would analyze a molecule; as a conglomerate made up of smaller, definable parts. This trend carried on into the advent of the steam engine, describing consciousness and personality as built up steam that must have appropriate outlets. It's so interesting how the trend of what we perceive informs, through metaphor, that which we cannot perceive.

It's also interesting how eager we as humans are to ascribe our own brand of consciousness to other living things. One theory on consciousness that Charles Darwin thought to be simply unquestionable, was that consciousness was simply a basic building block of all living things. An idea like this mirrors the concept of panpsychism, the belief that everything material, however small, has an element of individual consciousness (dictionary.com). It's also very similar to my own thoughts on consciousness, but we will get into that later on.

The first problem Julian tackles is whether or not learning is the hallmark of consciousness. Or, to borrow the section title from the book, Consciousness as learning. Julian talks about how he tried a test with his plant to see if he could get it to start to associate a tactile input stimulus with a frequency of light with a drooping of one of its leaves. Julians conclusion was that the plant was not conscious as it could not learn to droop the leaf at the signal of the light. After related experiments with ever more complex organisms yielding the same results, Julian finally came to the conclusion that using the ability to learn in this way was by no means a measurement of consciousness. He says "Why then did so many worthies in the lists of science equate consciousness and learning? And why had I been so lame of mind as to follow them?" (Jaynes 2000).  He argues that when we introspect, acting within consciousness, it is not dependent on some conditioned learning such as mazes or bells. This fundamental error in conflation of consciousness and learning, known as experience, has become embedded in the discussion. At this point Julian drops one of my favorite quotes, I even posted the quote on twitter and Instagram: "...it is now absolutely clear that in evolution the origin of learning and the origin of consciousness are two utterly separate problems" (Jaynes 2000).

So, we've established that consciousness is not simply being able to learn. In future episodes I'll get into Julians reasons for this theory, but for now lets assume this principal.

Next, let's look at whether or not consciousness is a metaphysical aspect of living things. The theory has been largely credited to Alfred Russel Wallace, who was the co-discoverer of the theory of natural selection. In a nutshell, the argument is that natural selection does not explain our desire for justice in the face of wrongdoing, the desire for certainty with which the scientist runs their studies, or any other uniquely human urge. Julian points out that it seems humans evolved along similar lines as all other creatures up until a certain point and then diverged to create a unique form of existence that has not been repeated anywhere else in nature. Wallace argued there were three distinct points at which some outside force directed evolution: at the beginning of life, the beginning of consciousness, and the beginning of civilized culture. This makes me think of all the theories around humans learning to plant seeds and grow crops. But that's for a different discussion.  In response to these metaphysical explanations of consciousness, a materialist wave emerged.

In the materialist view, consciousness does nothing and cannot do anything. The argument is that there is simple continuity through natural selection and at some unknown number of synaptic nerve cells, consciousness emerges. That consciousness cannot influence anything though. The analogy Julian uses is consciousness is like a whistle on a train: it cannot influence the speed or direction of the train. The rails of natural selection decided that route long ago. The issue here, in what is sometimes called the conscious automaton theory, is how could consciousness be so disconnected from something it is so entwined with? And, as Julian argues, why is consciousness more present when physical action ceases? And vice versa? The two are obviously linked and assuming consciousness is a helpless observer of outside circumstances ignores this reality.

Coming to the rescue of the helpless observer theory is the Emergent Evolution theory. A simple analogy is the way the quality of wetness cannot be derived from hydrogen and oxygen alone, but emerges out of the sum of parts, so consciousness has emerged from the sum of the organisms parts or inner workings. Apparently this explanation was greeted with incredible fan-fare. Some biologists even called it a new declaration of independence from physics and chemistry (Jaynes 2000). The problem is the emergent evolution theory failed to answer critical questions. If consciousness emerged, when? Also, in what species did it emerge in? What kind of nervous system would be required? Also, when did it emerge? Answers to these questions would give light to the conditions that created consciousness.

Around the same time, another means to explain consciousness was emerging. Behaviorism. Apparently the operating principal in behaviorism was to deny that consciousness existed at all, rather all behavior can be explained as reactions to input or conditions. While this theory started out as a weak argument, it actually took off, influencing psychology up until the 60's. With World War I still in the rear view mirror, society was longing for objective, hard facts. Success in chemistry and physics were luring and any subjective interpretation of consciousness was largely squashed or ignored. What behaviorism amounted to was no more than a method of analyzing response, not a theory of consciousness.

The last point that Julian brings up was a look at the reticular activating system in the brain. It apparently extends from the top of the spinal cord, through the brain stem, into the thalamus and hypothalamus. It its directly connected to a whole bunch of critical neuron networks, and it is also the place where anesthesia takes effect in the brain. Julian points out that if is cut, it induces permanent sleep and coma. If it is stimulated by an electrode in an animal, the animal wakes up. However, this still does not solve the problem of what consciousness is for two reasons. One, we still have the issue of conscious experience even outside the waking state. This is well documented. Second, and this is a point that Julian points out, is that we would be making an error in reasoning if we draw direct lines between psychological occurrences and neuro-anatomy.  Juilian states that even if we had a complete map of every single detail of the brain and nervous system, we still could not infer whether or not that brain had consciousness.

So we have thus far set the ground work for how we should think about consciousness within the argument of Julian Jaynes. We've got a long way to go; all that was just the effing introduction. Chapter one gives some excellent illustrations explaining what aspects of our lives consciousness isn't even required for. We will get into that in the next part of this consciousness series. That's a wrap for this episode.

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On this episode I want to talk about how to reshape the way we think about a common phrase.


Let’s start with some announcements.


First! Work on the book is going well. The first printed version is on it’s way and then I’ll send it to the author that has agreed to read it and share her thoughts with me. Like I said in the last episode I’m not going to name drop because I don’t know if the author would appreciate that, but I do want to tell you that I am very excited about it because I really really enjoyed her work. That being said, I have to raise money for the editor so that I can publish the book. This will hopefully be the last round of edits the book needs. If you have any ideas on how an author can raise money to get a book edited, please send them my way! You can reach me at godofhoneybees.com, on facebook, twitter, instagram, or godofbeespodcast@gmail.com
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Here is the phrase I heard recently: Speak now or forever hold your peace.  A few mornings ago, my wife said to me, “speak now or forever hold your peace”. Usually I wouldn’t have thought twice about it but, maybe because I’ve been listening to meditations so much lately, or I’ve been occupying my time with my book more, this phrase hit me in a different way. So, I want to go through it piece by piece. 


Do you remember yesterday? Of course you do. Pick any event that you remember about that day; what the weather was like, something that pissed you off, did your shoes fit was the coffee in the break room strong enough. Where do these events exist? Can you take something you remember about yesterday, grab hold of it and bring to now? Can you grab the weather from yesterday and hold it in front of you? See, the only thing about yesterday that exists are the particular firings of groups of neurons in your brain, reconstructing the last time they reconstructed the memory of yesterday. This is the only place you can find anything about yesterday. It’s interesting then that we give so much weight to our thoughts about yesterday. In the last episode, when we talked about using rocks for meditation, we touched on why we should practice looking without identifying or labeling. Looking at the world around us in this way is an idea I first heard from Krishnamurti. In a nutshell he explains that only by looking without categorizing can we dissolve the illusory delineation between observer and observed. A two-fold product of dissolving the boundary between observer and observed is firstly the slowing of mental chatter. This is because you are learning that thought is simply a tool to use in the world-just like your other senses.
Second, the peace you feel from the slowing of mental chatter and therefore a loss of anxiety, shows you that anxiety comes solely from thought. Thoughts about yesterday or tomorrow create the illusion of passing time, indicating something is moving with or without you, so you’d better get your act together. Simply by starting out observing our world without putting it into boxes can lead us down a path, ending with the realization of our true nature and the nature of our existence. Now, how much time should we spend concerning ourselves with yesterday? Or tomorrow? These reconstructed or hypothetical realities are creations of our mind. The moment we exist in as we sit and think about these other realities will soon become a yesterday as well; shifting into a reconstructed reality that we can’t do anything about. How much more important then is it to talk about now? Think about now? Where are you right now? Your thoughts are mere input stimulation categorized and organized by your mind-no different than the sensation of touch or smell. Let that particular sensory input relax for a moment. Think about right now. Speak about now. Speak now. 


Next, the choice to engage the goings on around you is of course your choice. This is the beautiful aspect about our existence; we are simply awareness and we can choose to participate in the game; engage in the context our bodies are in, or we can choose to not engage. Not identify with the stimulus or with the input. This is a fruit of true growth- being able to increase the space between stimulus and response. We have the capacity to recognize that we are the witness to these things, watching them like clouds passing. But they will come and go. Whatever instance you find your mind and body in will come and go. You can choose to engage it, or Rest in awareness and watch the goings on around you for what they really are; clouds passing by. It is at this point that you can truly play the game because you don’t think you are the game. You can hold your peace. 


So if I might suggest an adjustment to the phrase to help keep this concept in mind; Speak about now, and forever hold your peace. 


Recognize that past and future only exist in thought. And that it is thought that creates the sense of anxiety because thought centered around past and future creates the idea of time. Focus on now and be at peace. 


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     I’m Justin Herb and this is the god of Honeybees Podcast. In this update episode I want to let you know about what I’ve been working on. First I need to say thank you to some people!
    I’m recording this on July 21st but this episode will come out on July 16th. At the time of this recording I have had 8 people sign up for the email newsletter! So I want to say thank you to Cheryl, Tracy, Rebecca, my brother Jeremy, my mom Sarah, my mother in law Julie, my editor Patience, and my wife Christianna. Thanks to all of you for being a part of the newsletter. I hope everyone is enjoying their custom sticker or coaster. 
     The newsletter that comes out with each episode provides additional context for any sources I reference during the episode as well as links to the content. Also, if you would like to read rather than listen to a podcast or watch the episode on YouTube, you will get a nice PDF version of the episode in those emails. Also I still have some stickers left as well as coasters, all from stickermule.com. If you sign up for the newsletter I will also send you one of these items for free! Just include a shipping address when you sign up. 
     I want to tell you about what’s been happening lately with work around this podcast and the book. As far as the podcast goes; I have now got two working condenser mics, For anybody listening that might be interested in setting up a cheap rig to get better sound, you might consider these mic’s from Tonor. I got the whole set up, mic pop filter, wind screen, stand, from ebay for $20. I’ve then run the sound into a processing app to get some clearer sound. It’s not the best sound but for $20 I’m pretty impressed with how much better it is than what I had. Also I have been on the hunt for quite some time to find an intro song that I could use commercially, meaning ads could be placed in the episodes. I came across a couple websites that offered licenses that would allow me to do this but the songs were just lame as hell. I would spend hours on a site clicking next, next, next and just not get anywhere. Finally I came across a producer who’s website is karnbeats.com and found some excellent music. The song you heard at the beginning of this episode is one I got a license for from Karn Beats. So if you are looking for music to use for your project, check them out. Not only did I stumble across great music from Karn Beats, but our friend Tyler Ott, known widely as the rapper onitty, has been helping me out in a huge way putting together a custom song for me to use on the show! Once that is ready it will be on the very episode and I am so stoked. Like I mentioned in the last episode, I’m part of a band called the Bionic Monks and we have actually done some shows with Tyler. Music and the audio experience of each episode is of such a high concern for me, so I could not settle for basic music. That is why I’m so excited about the music I found from Karn Beats but even more so whatever might be cooking with Tyler. 
     On to the book! Recently I ordered a proof copy from Lulu.com and it was so great to see the work in actual book form. If you aren’t familiar with Lulu, it is a full service book-self publishing service. I believe they even have services that will help with cover design. Anyway all it takes is uploading the typeset pdf of your work and the cover art, and lulu creates a print ready preview. They have fantastic prices on printing and even set your book up with an ISBN. From there you can publish the book to Lulu, making it a print on demand service. You can also publish to Amazon which is nice and easy. The reason for ordering my proof copy was so that I could put a personal thank you note inside for the author that agreed to give me her thoughts on the current draft. Like I’ve said I won’t name drop in case she isn’t cool with that. If I find out later that she is okay with that you know I will name drop left and right. She told me she will start reading the book this past Friday, so I’m eagerly awaiting her feedback. Also I was able to send a copy of the book to arguably my favorite podcast and two of my favorite podcast hosts. I’ll wait to name drop later but they are from Australia and again-so excited to see what they have to say. Lulu notified me that there was a shipping delay so they will probably get the book this week or next.
   My hope is to use the feedback I get to help bring the book to it’s final form. I’ve gone through and made sure every idea I present is fully explained without rambling on. But I want an outside view to get a new perspective. The next step will be to raise money for the editor. I’m going to have to find a way to raise $700 assuming the text doesn’t increase in size too much. The current idea is to offer pre-orders of the book on Patreon. If you aren’t familiar with patreon it’s a platform for creators and supporters to connect. Instead of something like kickstarter that is a one time donation in return for items or benefits, Patreon is aiming to craft long term connections with supporters by providing a monthly support platform. This means that you can send X amount of dollars a month to your favorite creators. As far as the book is concerned, I’ll offer the pre order option one time and if we reach the $700 mark, then I can get the book edited by Patience Uhlman of 29Pilgrims.com. She does great work so if you are in the market for an editor, be it website content or print, I would recommend her. So I will post all kinds of updates once the pre-order option is ready to go. Until then, there is a simple $5/month option that just helps keep the project going. Like I’ve said in the past; if you can’t swing it, don’t worry about it. The shows that come out on the first and third Tuesday will always be free. If you can chip in I fully appreciate it.
     Special thanks to Karn Beats for producing the music on this show. As always you can reach me on godofhoneybees.com and let me know what you think of the show. Sign up for the email version of the show and I will send you a free sticker or coaster, whichever I have available. You get a free item with the podcast logo as well as links to all the sources I reference and a fancy PDF version of the show. You can also find me on Instagram at godofbeespodcast, twitter at GOHPodcast, Facebook at God of Honeybees Podcast, or email at godofbeespodcast@gmail.com.


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Welcome the god of honeybees podcast. This is episode two
and it’s mainly going to serve as a update on what kind of
content I’m trying to get to you and where to get it. It will
also be about what to expect moving forward. It’s early morning. It’s
right before work starts so I’ll try to be as clear and concise as possible
but I’m still drinking coffee so if I stumble if I’ve got to backtrack, you’ll
have to excuse me.
​     The main thing I wanted to get across was that I’ve
got an email list up and running. So, if you go to godofhoneybees.com
it’s super simple to sign up for the email list and that email that will
come out maybe twice a month. I’m not going to bombard your inbox
it’s only when I’ve got information that I think is going to help you
move through your day or I think the content is a really interesting
idea that I think needs to be shared. If you go to the Web site it’s super
easy to sign up for that email list. Now what’s going to be in the e-mail.
The podcast episodes going forward are extensions of the work I’m
doing on my book. If you didn’t know I am working on a book under
the same title, The God of Honeybees. It’s really close to being complete
and ready for another round of edits with my editor Patience Uhlman.
She runs 29pilgrims.com and I highly recommend her web site and all
the work she does. As I’m working on my book I’m coming across a
lot of really great information, a lot of ideas I’ve never heard of before,
and not all of it fits in the book in the way that makes sense. However,
in the same way that I want to share the information that’s in my book,
which is why I wrote a book, I want to share this other information
with you. So, the podcast episodes are going to be extensions of that
work that I’m doing in the book so each episode will dive deeper into
possibly a book that I’m referencing in my book, an online article,
whatever it might be. If it doesn’t fit into the book in a way that makes
sense or if there’s more information about it than I can put my book,
I’m gonna make an episode about it.
     I’m going to make YouTube the main outlet for the podcast because
I want to do it video based. I just really like that idea. It’ll still be
available on podcast platforms as just audio. I’m also going to make it
have I’m also going to do like a text version of it. I’m going to work with
Patience to edit the text transcription down for readability grammar
(disclaimer: this episode was not edited by Patience, so don’t take it as an
example of her excellent work). Perhaps you don’t have time to put in
earbuds and listen to a podcast episode. If you read faster than I talk,
which is probably the case, then maybe you would prefer the PDF
version. Godofhoneybees.com is going to have, under the blog tab,
each episode text versions so you can just read it right there.
If you sign up for the email list you will get all the information on any
source(s) I reference. That’s where I’m going to attach all the links to
the books that I might be referencing, if there’s a PDF that I’m allowed
to just send you through an email, etc. I’m also going to make really
nice looking PDF versions of the text transcription. In case you really
like information I provided, you can just forward it right from there
or just save it all in a sub folder in your email for storage. The goal is
to make it as freely and widely accessible as possible. So that’s really
going to be the best way to get connected, stay connected, and up to
date on all this stuff. Also, it’s gonna be the way I reach out to you
when my own book is ready! If you’ve liked the information that’s been
coming out in the podcast episodes the book is going to be how I’ve
connected these ideas to try to to convey a larger message. If you’re on
the email list you’re going to get notified as soon as that book is ready
to go.
     I also want to let you know about what to expect going forward as far
as availability of the content. Just the other day I was talking with my
dad, Eric. He’s the singer and bass player in the band Bionic Monk’s,
of which I am a part. I was also talking with the drummer of the band,
Brandon. We were talking about the content we make for the band
and how to make it as accessible as possible. I was using an analogy
for how to think about free content. I thought it was helpful, so I
want to propose this to you just to understand why I’m going about
things the way I’m going about them. Suppose you have two friends.
With one friend, every time you meet up with them you talk about
something interesting you came across such as an interesting article
or interesting idea or maybe some life experience that you’ve went
through and you’re wanting to share with them. If every time you
did that they said something like “Oh yeah, I just read a whole book
specifically that that topic that you’re interested in” or “I went through
a similar life experience and I came up with some things that really
helped me get through that”. Suppose you then tried to engage with
them and ask “Well, what was the name of that that book you read?” or
“What were the things you came up with that helped you through that
specific life experience?” and their response was “Well, for 10 bucks
a month I’ll let you know”. That’s not going to do a damn bit of good
because if you can’t pay them that that amount of money each month
you’ll just do without that information. Right?
     Now, suppose your second friend had the opposite response. As soon
as you try to engage them they they’re right there with the name of the
book, with the steps that they took to get through that life experience
whatever it may be. If they just engaged with you right away with
all that information, that would be a much closer relationship, right?
Now, consider further down the road, both of them come to you at
separate points and say

“Hey, I’m working on a project. If you might be able to swing five
bucks a month to just help the project stay going that would be
awesome. If you can’t don’t worry about it. It’s not going to change
the way we interact or the way we hang out. But, if you happen to
be in a place where five bucks a month is no big deal and you like
my project, could swing five bucks?”
​
Which one of those friends are you going to give the five dollars to?
Right. Obviously, it’s the person that engages with you freely because
then your interaction is not predicated on you paying. That’s why,
for this podcast for the content I’m making, I’m not going to put it
behind a paywall. Of course, when the book is ready I’ll be asking you
to buy the book but I can’t really make the physical printed book free.
I don’t know how to do that. However, it doesn’t cost me to make a
video. It doesn’t cost me to come across an idea that I think is worth
sharing. It does cost to keep the website going or you know buy some
equipment. For example, I just ordered two mic’s to try to make some
better audio in these videos and that costs some money. But this is
a passion project so any content that I make like this is not going to
be behind a paywall. I want to craft a conversation with you. I want
to craft a connection with you. These ideas are not business ideas or
anything. You know what I mean? It’s just that this stuff brightens my
day. This stuff engages my mind. I think it’s really great. I just want
to share that with you. If you are interested enough in this content
I’d like to hear from you because we’re crafting a conversation. That’s
why it’s not going to be behind a paywall.
Now I am working on setting up a page on Patreon and, initially, it’s
just going to have one tier. It’s just going to be the five bucks a month.
Like I said in the analogy, this is only if you feel like you can swing five
bucks a month because that’ll help. For example, every year you got to
renew your license on the url. I used the service weebly to make the
website and that has a monthly cost to allow me to keep using the url
that I bought. It would just help keep the lights on, so to say. Again,
only if you feel like you can swing five bucks a month. If not it’s no big
deal. All of this content that I’m making is like you and me hanging out.
It’s like we’re meeting up for coffee. I’m not going to ask you to pay
me five bucks when we meet at Starbucks so that I can tell you about
something I found interesting. I just want to craft a conversation with
you about this stuff.
So, to wrap things up because I’m long winded, go to godofhoneybees.
com. There’s a contact tab where you can let me know what you
thought about the Web site. The podcast is going to be dominantly
on YouTube. If you search god of honeybees you can watch all the
video episodes. If you’d rather listen to it in your podcast app, god of
honey bees is probably on your podcast app. If you want to read it
in a distilled version, godofhoneybees.com, under the blog tab, each
episode is going be transcribed in an edited version for readability. If
you want a really great looking PDF version of the transcription that
you can send to your friends, that you could print off, that you could
do whatever you want with, send it wherever, and you want access to
the links to any sources that I’m referencing in the episodes, sign up
for the email list. It doesn’t cost you anything.
Godofhoneybees.com is the central hub to get access to all of that.
The email newsletter will have all of the extra sources that I’m diving
into. I’ll make another announcement later on once Patreon is up
and running. Thanks for listening to this brief episode. The next
one coming down the pipeline is about using rocks to help improve
our meditation practice, our morning ritual, our prayers, liturgy, etc.
I want to talk about a method of using rocks to help improve that
practice.
Thanks for listening to God of honeybees, the podcast. Again you
can find all the extra content on godofhoneybees.com. You can find
me on Instagram @godofbeespodcast and consider signing up for the
email newsletter so they can get you all the information on the extra
content that I think you might really find interesting. Thanks again.
Justin Herb platform
Welcome the god of honeybees podcast. This is episode two
and it’s mainly going to serve as a update on what kind of
content I’m trying to get to you and where to get it. It will
also be about what to expect moving forward. It’s early morning. It’s
right before work starts so I’ll try to be as clear and concise as possible
but I’m still drinking coffee so if I stumble if I’ve got to backtrack, you’ll
have to excuse me. The main thing I wanted to get across was that I’ve
got an email list up and running. So, if you go to godofhoneybees.com
it’s super simple to sign up for the email list and that email that will
come out maybe twice a month. I’m not going to bombard your inbox
it’s only when I’ve got information that I think is going to help you
move through your day or I think the content is a really interesting
idea that I think needs to be shared. If you go to the Web site it’s super
easy to sign up for that email list. Now what’s going to be in the e-mail.
The podcast episodes going forward are extensions of the work I’m
doing on my book. If you didn’t know I am working on a book under
the same title, The God of Honeybees. It’s really close to being complete
and ready for another round of edits with my editor Patience Uhlman.
She runs 29pilgrims.com and I highly recommend her web site and all
the work she does. As I’m working on my book I’m coming across a
lot of really great information, a lot of ideas I’ve never heard of before,
and not all of it fits in the book in the way that makes sense. However,
in the same way that I want to share the information that’s in my book,
which is why I wrote a book, I want to share this other information
with you. So, the podcast episodes are going to be extensions of that
work that I’m doing in the book so each episode will dive deeper into
possibly a book that I’m referencing in my book, an online article,
whatever it might be. If it doesn’t fit into the book in a way that makes
sense or if there’s more information about it than I can put my book,
I’m gonna make an episode about it.
I’m going to make YouTube the main outlet for the podcast because
I want to do it video based. I just really like that idea. It’ll still be
available on podcast platforms as just audio. I’m also going to make it
have I’m also going to do like a text version of it. I’m going to work with
Patience to edit the text transcription down for readability grammar
(disclaimer: this episode was not edited by Patience, so don’t take it as an
example of her excellent work). Perhaps you don’t have time to put in
earbuds and listen to a podcast episode. If you read faster than I talk,
which is probably the case, then maybe you would prefer the PDF
version. Godofhoneybees.com is going to have, under the blog tab,
each episode text versions so you can just read it right there.
If you sign up for the email list you will get all the information on any
source(s) I reference. That’s where I’m going to attach all the links to
the books that I might be referencing, if there’s a PDF that I’m allowed
to just send you through an email, etc. I’m also going to make really
nice looking PDF versions of the text transcription. In case you really
like information I provided, you can just forward it right from there
or just save it all in a sub folder in your email for storage. The goal is
to make it as freely and widely accessible as possible. So that’s really
going to be the best way to get connected, stay connected, and up to
date on all this stuff. Also, it’s gonna be the way I reach out to you
when my own book is ready! If you’ve liked the information that’s been
coming out in the podcast episodes the book is going to be how I’ve
connected these ideas to try to to convey a larger message. If you’re on
the email list you’re going to get notified as soon as that book is ready
to go.
I also want to let you know about what to expect going forward as far
as availability of the content. Just the other day I was talking with my
dad, Eric. He’s the singer and bass player in the band Bionic Monk’s,
of which I am a part. I was also talking with the drummer of the band,
Brandon. We were talking about the content we make for the band
and how to make it as accessible as possible. I was using an analogy
for how to think about free content. I thought it was helpful, so I
want to propose this to you just to understand why I’m going about
things the way I’m going about them. Suppose you have two friends.
With one friend, every time you meet up with them you talk about
something interesting you came across such as an interesting article
or interesting idea or maybe some life experience that you’ve went
through and you’re wanting to share with them. If every time you
did that they said something like “Oh yeah, I just read a whole book
specifically that that topic that you’re interested in” or “I went through
a similar life experience and I came up with some things that really
helped me get through that”. Suppose you then tried to engage with
them and ask “Well, what was the name of that that book you read?” or
“What were the things you came up with that helped you through that
specific life experience?” and their response was “Well, for 10 bucks
a month I’ll let you know”. That’s not going to do a damn bit of good
because if you can’t pay them that that amount of money each month
you’ll just do without that information. Right?
     Now, suppose your second friend had the opposite response. As soon
as you try to engage them they they’re right there with the name of the
book, with the steps that they took to get through that life experience
whatever it may be. If they just engaged with you right away with
all that information, that would be a much closer relationship, right?
Now, consider further down the road, both of them come to you at
separate points and say,
“Hey, I’m working on a project. If you might be able to swing five
bucks a month to just help the project stay going that would be
awesome. If you can’t don’t worry about it. It’s not going to change
the way we interact or the way we hang out. But, if you happen to
be in a place where five bucks a month is no big deal and you like
my project, could swing five bucks?”
     Which one of those friends are you going to give the five dollars to?
Right. Obviously, it’s the person that engages with you freely because
then your interaction is not predicated on you paying. That’s why,
for this podcast for the content I’m making, I’m not going to put it
behind a paywall. Of course, when the book is ready I’ll be asking you
to buy the book but I can’t really make the physical printed book free.
I don’t know how to do that. However, it doesn’t cost me to make a
video. It doesn’t cost me to come across an idea that I think is worth
sharing. It does cost to keep the website going or you know buy some
equipment. For example, I just ordered two mic’s to try to make some
better audio in these videos and that costs some money. But this is
a passion project so any content that I make like this is not going to
be behind a paywall. I want to craft a conversation with you. I want
to craft a connection with you. These ideas are not business ideas or
anything. You know what I mean? It’s just that this stuff brightens my
day. This stuff engages my mind. I think it’s really great. I just want
to share that with you. If you are interested enough in this content
I’d like to hear from you because we’re crafting a conversation. That’s
why it’s not going to be behind a paywall.
     Now I am working on setting up a page on Patreon and, initially, it’s
just going to have one tier. It’s just going to be the five bucks a month.
Like I said in the analogy, this is only if you feel like you can swing five
bucks a month because that’ll help. For example, every year you got to
renew your license on the url. I used the service weebly to make the
website and that has a monthly cost to allow me to keep using the url
that I bought. It would just help keep the lights on, so to say. Again,
only if you feel like you can swing five bucks a month. If not it’s no big
deal. All of this content that I’m making is like you and me hanging out.
It’s like we’re meeting up for coffee. I’m not going to ask you to pay
me five bucks when we meet at Starbucks so that I can tell you about
something I found interesting. I just want to craft a conversation with
you about this stuff.
     So, to wrap things up because I’m long winded, go to godofhoneybees.
com. There’s a contact tab where you can let me know what you
thought about the Web site. The podcast is going to be dominantly
on YouTube. If you search god of honeybees you can watch all the
video episodes. If you’d rather listen to it in your podcast app, god of
honey bees is probably on your podcast app. If you want to read it
in a distilled version, godofhoneybees.com, under the blog tab, each
episode is going be transcribed in an edited version for readability. If
you want a really great looking PDF version of the transcription that
you can send to your friends, that you could print off, that you could
do whatever you want with, send it wherever, and you want access to
the links to any sources that I’m referencing in the episodes, sign up
for the email list. It doesn’t cost you anything.
     Godofhoneybees.com is the central hub to get access to all of that.
The email newsletter will have all of the extra sources that I’m diving
into. I’ll make another announcement later on once Patreon is up
and running. Thanks for listening to this brief episode. The next
one coming down the pipeline is about using rocks to help improve
our meditation practice, our morning ritual, our prayers, liturgy, etc.
I want to talk about a method of using rocks to help improve that
practice.
     Thanks for listening to God of honeybees, the podcast. Again you
can find all the extra content on godofhoneybees.com. You can find
me on Instagram @godofbeespodcast and consider signing up for the
email newsletter so they can get you all the information on the extra
content that I think you might really find interesting. Thanks again.

Justin Herb

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